I like it! it's the closest we all get to hanging out at a party long enough to group into clusters where someone is telling a really bonkers story or ranting about something from a very interesting perspective. I raise my metaphorical red solo cup together with our internet friends who are also here. :)
Thank you for this... I can't tell you how much I relate to everything you wrote. The era of the grifter sounds (and feels) absolutely spot on. It just makes me tired, so I find myself distancing more and more from the indie community at large and trying to find the other people hiding out who still have integrity and aren't trying to sell me some shitty course.
I started with the indie publishing stuff in 2012, mostly out of impatience, and it was such a different world back then.
There was a lot of bumping around in the dark fumbling for answers back then, but as soon as the business class folks and slick marketers invaded it took a very dire change for the worst. At this point I essentially avoid all the people I encountered in groups and forums because of this stuff.
Didn't do all that art, music and writing school to commit myself to an existence as a marketing drone. Nope.
Hear, hear... and frankly, I'm tired of people telling me I'm "stupid" because I don't do it the way they do, re: the minimum viable product approach, etc. Like you (it sounds like), that's not why I'm doing this. To be fair, iterations of that stuff have been around to some degree since those early years, but it's completely taken over now, and A.I. will make that worse. It's definitely made the gaslighting worse already. I find I'm just increasingly doing my own thing when it comes to writing / publishing, and trying to do my own research without getting very involved groups and so forth, which end up being a huge time suck and a lot of drama.
this is good shit. thank you for writing it.
Sometimes if I get mad enough and don't stop and think about what I'm doing it comes out reaaaaally well. Other times, well...
I like it! it's the closest we all get to hanging out at a party long enough to group into clusters where someone is telling a really bonkers story or ranting about something from a very interesting perspective. I raise my metaphorical red solo cup together with our internet friends who are also here. :)
Thank you for this... I can't tell you how much I relate to everything you wrote. The era of the grifter sounds (and feels) absolutely spot on. It just makes me tired, so I find myself distancing more and more from the indie community at large and trying to find the other people hiding out who still have integrity and aren't trying to sell me some shitty course.
I started with the indie publishing stuff in 2012, mostly out of impatience, and it was such a different world back then.
There was a lot of bumping around in the dark fumbling for answers back then, but as soon as the business class folks and slick marketers invaded it took a very dire change for the worst. At this point I essentially avoid all the people I encountered in groups and forums because of this stuff.
Didn't do all that art, music and writing school to commit myself to an existence as a marketing drone. Nope.
Hear, hear... and frankly, I'm tired of people telling me I'm "stupid" because I don't do it the way they do, re: the minimum viable product approach, etc. Like you (it sounds like), that's not why I'm doing this. To be fair, iterations of that stuff have been around to some degree since those early years, but it's completely taken over now, and A.I. will make that worse. It's definitely made the gaslighting worse already. I find I'm just increasingly doing my own thing when it comes to writing / publishing, and trying to do my own research without getting very involved groups and so forth, which end up being a huge time suck and a lot of drama.